Best Audio Books

Never, in 50 trillion years, would I even consider asking this. But I listened to unChristian by David Kinnamon, who is a Christian btw, and disagreed with 90% of it. But I discovered that I could "poke holes" in his views, and thought it was time for me to listen to a cheap audio book by someone I know disagrees with me. I was thinking about Dawkins God Delusion or something by Bart Erhman. But I don’t know. Also, I keep hearing about someone called Sam Harris – does anyone know who he is? My criteria is it cannot be a new book (old ones are cheaper!) and if can’t be dry – interjecting humor would be nice (how many Christians does it take to change a light bulb). Thought provoking questions (and answers) and bringing up why they don’t believe, would be nice as well.
When I said "non-believers of all faiths" I meant people who were Christian at one time but turned their back on Jesus and became non-believers. The atheists understood what I meant, why didn’t the Christians? You are just re-enforcing what David Kinnamon said. But I don’t look at the followers of Christianity. I look at the founder. I also bet that most pastors have read at least some books by the authors mentioned.

To be honest, I don’t know what I’m looking for, but I’ll know it when I find it. That’s why my new mantra (yes, I know that’s a Hindu word) is "the faith that cannot be shaken, has been shaken."

Sam Harris – Letter to a Christian Nation

It’s a long letter, but a very short book.

Sam Harris is a neuroscientist, an outspoken non-believer and a VERY good writer

Carl Sagan is amazing too ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wupToqz1e2g )

Christians, (or people of any faith i guess) Have you read the book "The God Delusion"? And if so, has it shaken your faith? How has it affected you?

The God Delusion · Books
From Wikipedia
The God Delusion

Author Dawkins, Richard
Subject(s) Religion
Genre(s) Science, philosophy
Publisher Bantam Books
Publication date October 2, 2006
Media type Hardcover, Paperback, Audio book
ISBN 0-618-68000-4
Dewey Decimal 211/.8 22
The God Delusion is a 2006 bestselling[1] non-fiction book by British biologist Richard Dawkins, professorial fellow of New College, Oxford,[2][3] and inaugural holder of the Charles Simonyi Chair for the Public Understanding of Science at the University of Oxford.

In The God Delusion, Dawkins contends that a supernatural creator almost certainly does not exist and that belief in a personal god qualifies as a delusion, which he defines as a persistent false belief held in the face of strong contradictory evidence. He is sympathetic to Robert Pirsig’s observation in Lila that "when one person suffers from a delusion it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion."
My motives for posting this question have been questioned. Instead of replying to individuals, let me just explain why i asked this. I am 34. Stricly catholic family and area (southwest louisiana cajun). Attended catholic school until i begain college, and was an alter boy. I have read, not just the bible, but many other pro-christian books, as well as TGD and other books by Dawson and other like minded individuals. I believe you can NEVER understand the truth of anything unless you study BOTH sides of an arguement, because therein lies the truth. Hidden in between the lines. I will not state my beliefs, I just wondered how many christians wont even consider studying both sides in order to make up their own minds. Some of you said you read dawkins and threw it in the trash. GOOD FOR YOU! You are a reasonible person who considered the evidence and made up your own mind. For those who fear reading it, dont be a sheep. Study both sides of a debate before commming to a conclusion.

most religious people won’t even read it. i was told not to when i was religious, don’t even look into things that could destroy your faith, that’s what you are told. then the religions wonder why so many people belong to OTHER faiths and don’t believe theirs.
@JEWS – what exactly are you trying to prove. all that points out that Dawkins is reasonable and looks at several sides of the arguments.

About Us
People around the globe know Pastor Benny Hinn as a noted evangelist, teacher, and the author of best-selling books including Prayer That Gets Results, Lamb of God, and Good Morning, Holy Spirit. His TV program This Is Your Day! is among the world’s most-watched Christian programs, seen daily in 200 countries.

But there is much more to the story of the man and ministry now impacting the world with the life-saving and miracle-working message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

Beginnings
Benny Hinn was born on December 3, 1952, in the port city of Jaffa (part of modern Tel Aviv), Israel, where his family had set up residence as immigrants to Palestine from Greece. In 1968, not long after the Six-Day War, he immigrated with his family to Canada.

In February 1972 Benny Hinn’s life took on an entirely new meaning when he surrendered his heart and life to Jesus Christ as high school friends prayed with him. Soon afterward, he was called to minister the Gospel.

Benny Hinn is the proud parent of three daughters and a son and grandfather to two grandsons.

The ministry-owned television studio is located in Alison Viejo, California. The corporate headquarters for Benny Hinn Ministries / World Healing Center Church is located in Grapevine, Texas.

Benny Hinn: Over 30 Years as Statesman, Author, Broadcaster, Bridge Builder, and Evangelist
In worldwide ministry more than 30 years, Pastor Benny Hinn has preached the Gospel face to face and through television to more than a billion people. Through Holy Spirit Miracle Crusades, Training for Ministry Conferences, TV broadcasts, the Internet, printed page, and audio-video recordings, this evangelist’s straightforward and uncompromising message of God’s love has inspired hundreds of millions to a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

Pastor Benny’s ministry is also engaged in crisis relief, children’s homes, and feeding programs, as well as hospital and emergency care. During the past year alone, not only did his ministry help provide food, clothing, shelter, education, and religious training for 46,368 children around the globe (including partnerships with 31 different missionary and relief agencies), but it also continues to underwrite the free care expenses of such powerful outreaches as a hospital in Calcutta, India, where over 200,000 patients are treated annually, and My Father’s House children’s homes in Mexico and the Philippines.

Click here for pictures of Pastor Benny’s outreach to world leaders.

Taking the Saving and Healing Power of Jesus Christ to the World
Today, Pastor Benny continues to take the message of God’s saving and healing power to the world. Millions attend his Holy Spirit Miracle Crusades each year. Memorable crusades have included audiences up to 7.3 million (in three services) in India, the largest healing service in recorded history. During recent years, he has been welcomed during his travels by kings, prime ministers, and heads of state, yet his message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ continues to be fervent, motivating him to “go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature” (Mark 16:15).

After more than 30 years in ministry as statesman, author, broadcaster, bridge builder, and evangelist, Pastor Benny Hinn remains committed, more than ever, to preaching the glorious Gospel of Jesus Christ, teaching the unchanging Word of God, and expecting the mighty and miraculous power of the Holy Spirit!

Hinn married the former Suzanne Harthern on 4 August 1979. Harthern filed papers in Orange County (CA) Superior Court on 1 February 2010 seeking a divorce, citing "irreconcilable differences". The couple have four children together.

I would love for someone to clarify the justification for needing a church that costs more than a hospital or school. And before you argue that most of the money goes to things that are necessities for the church: a 40,000sq.ft. building with crystal chandeliers, high quality statues in every corner, top-of-the-line audio equipment to speak through, and a minister that owns two brand new vehicles is NOT required to have someone read out of a book.

I undoubtedly believe that if such a church was stripped down to lawn chairs underneath a tent that 90% of the church’s members would complain that the church leaders were weakening their own belief in ‘God’.

Explain yourselves.
@ MixedGurl – thank you for cowardly proving my point and contradicting yourself within a few short sentences. "It takes money to get the word of God out" –> "What you are saying is not true". Well, some simple math comparisons leave us with:

Church + Money = Religion
Church – Money =/= Religion

And why do you think that God needs money? You realize that money is simply a complicated form of paper with advanced ink drawings on it, right? Our government.. the same one that approves of abortions and stem-cell research ("bad" things, in the Christian’s eye).. is the one that provides you with money, so long as you work your ass off and give a little of your earnings back to them.

The selling of God is BIG business. Religious hucksters from time immemorial have known – even before P.T. Barnum – that there’s a sucker born every minute. Exploit human gullibility, "spiritual void," wretchedness, hopelessness, and despair by offering an eternal reward of non-suffering and infinite happiness. Point out in subtle terms that this reward in the afterlife does come at a price, and begin collecting "offerings," "donations," and tithes and watch the God-selling business grow to obscene proportions.

Religious "leaders" are all hucksters – the degree of personal greed is just a matter of…degree.

P.S. Jesus is the greatest story ever SOLD. Just look at how the Roman Catholic Church has profited obscenely by it.

Hello, I am a Christian, non-denominational, and I have a grandfather who has lost 98% of his vision. He can no longer read God’s word, and has made him very saddened, although he has many many verses memorized, and others read to him often, he asked me if they made an audio Bible with voice command. I know they make an Audio Bible, thats not what im looking for, what im looking for, is an audio bible that is not software, but is a book to which he can say Genesis 3:14, and it would then quote said Scripture. Through the few hours ive spent looking for this, ive found one, but it was software for the palm pilot. My grandfather is an elderly gentleman, and does not fool with technology one bit. Thank you so much for your help, and may God Bless you and your family.

~Norman Reece

I searched some and didn’t come across something like you have in mind. But I did find a couple of interesting alternatives you may want to consider
At booksaloud.org they mail you a tape (or cd, not sure?) that is on loan for one month for free. It looks like most of the tapes are broken up into small sections of the Bible.
Also, at www.talkingbibles.org you may want to check out…
But my favorite one I found was http://www.talking-bible.net/ and it is a small handheld device that you can use to skip forward and backwards through the Bible. It looked really easy to use.
Good luck!

I know there are some who would never go to church no matter what, but my question is addressed to those who normally attend church. I’m happy at home listening to Christian audio books and also listen to my pastor’s sermons online. There are cyber friends I can also contact as well.

You bet. I have other physical compromises that can be humbling but I would never forgo the gifts I get at church just because of them. God never gives you anything you can’t handle.

As for maintaining your faith in isolation, if you have to,not just want to it’s better than nothing. But remember even the brightest glowing coal eventually goes out if it is too far from the fire. Please make an effort.

I came across his website http://www.khouse.org/ while searching for Christian audio books, and know nothing about him.

Chuck Missler – Important Rapture Cult leader who is notorious for brazenly lying to his audience to curry favor. An entertaining public speaker popular on the cult circuit, Missler rolls out detailed and elaborate prevarications to pump up the Rapture Cult lie the doctrine was taught in the early church. In a typical presentation, in a rapid fire fashion, Chuck Missler will cite over a dozen ancient Christians (Irenaues, Hippolytus, Jerome, etc), with dates that sound authentic, and categorically state they all taught the pre-tribulation fraud. To an unlearned Christian, such a presentation is compelling.

"The Arrivals" series should not be watched brother. A general warning about the series must be issued. It is enough that the series was made by the shia and openly calls to shia aqeedah particularly regarding what would happen in the last days! It is definately shia dawah and propoganda. After that, there are MANY other mistakes in aqeedah, half truths, and speculation that can not be affirmed or proven. Let the community learn the Qur’an and Sunnah with the understanding of the Sahaabah and not waste their time on such nonsense. Any information about masonry etc. should be taken from orthodox scholars of Islam and approved books on firaq wal adyaan. Please do what you can to warn the community and get the imams of masaajid to issue warnings as well. Great question from the sister!

Tariq Preston (University of Madeenah)
Hope that helps

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one has to be careful when watching The Arrivals, as not everything in it is based on the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah, and there are several errors mentioned. For example, they mention that a year in God’s measure is like a 1000, while we all know that it’s a day by God’s measure that equals a 1000 years.

Furthermore, the creators of The Arrivals are Shi’a. For example, they claim there is no where in the Qur’an that says that one should be Sunni. They talk about the family of the Prophet (SAW) but miss out Aisha (RA), and the other wives of the Prophet (SAW), and other prominent members of his family such as his dear cousin Abdullah bin Abbas (RA), who was raised in his household. Also, they mention that Hassan (RA) was poisoned by Mu’awiya (RA), a common Shi’i lie.

Arrivals of Deception

Having heard much about, “The Arrivals,” I finally watched the series. I thought I could learn something, but then realised that something was amiss. I write these words to awaken the overly trusting to points which might have been overlooked.

Unauthentic “Research”
Certain “facts” are in fact plain conjecture. Other facts which can easily be researched are simply copied and pasted without verification. For example, quotations are simply extracted from the audio, From the Shadows, including the most glaring error claiming that the Freemasons realised their error in France when they lost control of Napoleon. They therefore made certain that when they later inspired the American Revolution that they installed a Freemason, George Washington.

The producers make much of their “research” yet as Americans, they should know a basic fact that the Treaty of Paris terminating the Independence War was signed in 1783, which is 16 years before Napoleon came to power in 1799. Did the Masons then invent a time travel machine to install George Washington back in 1775? Incidentally Washington died in 1799, the year Bonaparte came to power and broke away from Masonic control. How could the French Revolution possibly have been before the American Revolution?

If these widely available facts are mysteries to these great researchers, why should we trust them on their novel, obscure claims?

Brazen distortion of Qurān and Ḥadīth
Our interpretation of Qurān and Ḥadīth is what Allāh and His Rasūl (pbuh) taught us, via the chain of the Ṣaḥābah (R.A), Mufassirūn and Muḥaddithūn. Aḥādīth warning against personal interpretations are well known.

The producers make the following claims:

* Ad-Dajjāl has already emerged.
* The first day represents his rule in England, starting in 900 of the Christian era.
The second day represents his rule in America, starting in 1917.* The English monarchy started in 900.
* The third day represents his rule in Palestine, starting in 2001.

The unbiased will realise:
* England and “between Iraq and Syria” cannot be the same.
* The continuous monarchy of England is dated from the reign of Egbert in 829. Is Arrivals deliberately lying to get their date of 900?
* The question of the Ṣalāh, clearly shows that the Ṣaḥābah (RA) understood the prophecy to mean that a normal 24 hour day will be extended to a year.
* This is in line with the clear, uncomplicated Dīn which Rasūlullāh (pbuh) brought us.
* The esoteric UK-US theory seems more in line with Masonic thinking.

Arrivals is correct that there is infiltration. They are just slyer than many expect.
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Sulaiman al-Kindi

lol, wow thanks for showing how insecure you are about your own faith.

Arrivals say Dajaal and illumnati is already on the plate controlling government. Which is against what the prophet said, that the Dajaal will appear at the end. The arrivals is made by shia’s, they have different hadith than us. Muslims who beleive what the arrivals say are not following islam.

Scholars:
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"The Arrivals" series should not be watched brother. A general warning about the series must be issued. It is enough that the series was made by the shia and openly calls to shia aqeedah particularly regarding what would happen in the last days! It is definately shia dawah and propoganda. After that, there are MANY other mistakes in aqeedah, half truths, and speculation that can not be affirmed or proven. Let the community learn the Qur’an and Sunnah with the understanding of the Sahaabah and not waste their time on such nonsense. Any information about masonry etc. should be taken from orthodox scholars of Islam and approved books on firaq wal adyaan. Please do what you can to warn the community and get the imams of masaajid to issue warnings as well. Great question from the sister!

Tariq Preston (University of Madeenah)
Hope that helps

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one has to be careful when watching The Arrivals, as not everything in it is based on the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah, and there are several errors mentioned. For example, they mention that a year in God’s measure is like a 1000, while we all know that it’s a day by God’s measure that equals a 1000 years.

Furthermore, the creators of The Arrivals are Shi’a. For example, they claim there is no where in the Qur’an that says that one should be Sunni. They talk about the family of the Prophet (SAW) but miss out Aisha (RA), and the other wives of the Prophet (SAW), and other prominent members of his family such as his dear cousin Abdullah bin Abbas (RA), who was raised in his household. Also, they mention that Hassan (RA) was poisoned by Mu’awiya (RA), a common Shi’i lie.

Unauthentic “Research”
Certain “facts” are in fact plain conjecture. Other facts which can easily be researched are simply copied and pasted without verification. For example, quotations are simply extracted from the audio, From the Shadows, including the most glaring error claiming that the Freemasons realised their error in France when they lost control of Napoleon. They therefore made certain that when they later inspired the American Revolution that they installed a Freemason, George Washington.

The producers make much of their “research” yet as Americans, they should know a basic fact that the Treaty of Paris terminating the Independence War was signed in 1783, which is 16 years before Napoleon came to power in 1799. Did the Masons then invent a time travel machine to install George Washington back in 1775? Incidentally Washington died in 1799, the year Bonaparte came to power and broke away from Masonic control. How could the French Revolution possibly have been before the American Revolution?

If these widely available facts are mysteries to these great researchers, why should we trust them on their novel, obscure claims?

Brazen distortion of Qurān and Ḥadīth
Our interpretation of Qurān and Ḥadīth is what Allāh and His Rasūl (pbuh) taught us, via the chain of the Ṣaḥābah (R.A), Mufassirūn and Muḥaddithūn. Aḥādīth warning against personal interpretations are well known.

The producers make the following claims:
* Ad-Dajjāl has already emerged.
* The first day represents his rule in England, starting in 900 of the Christian era.
The second day represents his rule in America, starting in 1917.* The English monarchy started in 900.
* The third day represents his rule in Palestine, starting in 2001.

The unbiased will realise:
* England and “between Iraq and Syria” cannot be the same.
* The continuous monarchy of England is dated from the reign of Egbert in 829. Is Arrivals deliberately lying to get their date of 900?
* The question of the Ṣalāh, clearly shows that the Ṣaḥābah (RA) understood the prophecy to mean that a normal 24 hour day will be extended to a year.
* This is in line with the clear, uncomplicated Dīn which Rasūlullāh (pbuh) brought us.
* The esoteric UK-US theory seems more in line with Masonic thinking.

Arrivals is correct that there is infiltration. They are just slyer than many expect.
Submitted via email from:
Sulaiman al-Kindi

Yeah, the Wahabi scholars must be saying all this crap…Sunni scholars will NEVER say anything like this and most of the other sects scholar will NEVER say this as well…Don’t tell us the scholars are saying that arrival is fake based on 1 scholar….GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT..
I hope I helped

"The Arrivals" series should not be watched brother. A general warning about the series must be issued. It is enough that the series was made by the shia and openly calls to shia aqeedah particularly regarding what would happen in the last days! It is definately shia dawah and propoganda. After that, there are MANY other mistakes in aqeedah, half truths, and speculation that can not be affirmed or proven. Let the community learn the Qur’an and Sunnah with the understanding of the Sahaabah and not waste their time on such nonsense. Any information about masonry etc. should be taken from orthodox scholars of Islam and approved books on firaq wal adyaan. Please do what you can to warn the community and get the imams of masaajid to issue warnings as well. Great question from the sister!

Tariq Preston (University of Madeenah)
Hope that helps

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one has to be careful when watching The Arrivals, as not everything in it is based on the Qur’an and authentic Sunnah, and there are several errors mentioned. For example, they mention that a year in God’s measure is like a 1000, while we all know that it’s a day by God’s measure that equals a 1000 years.

Furthermore, the creators of The Arrivals are Shi’a. For example, they claim there is no where in the Qur’an that says that one should be Sunni. They talk about the family of the Prophet (SAW) but miss out Aisha (RA), and the other wives of the Prophet (SAW), and other prominent members of his family such as his dear cousin Abdullah bin Abbas (RA), who was raised in his household. Also, they mention that Hassan (RA) was poisoned by Mu’awiya (RA), a common Shi’i lie.

Arrivals of Deception

Having heard much about, “The Arrivals,” I finally watched the series. I thought I could learn something, but then realised that something was amiss. I write these words to awaken the overly trusting to points which might have been overlooked.

Unauthentic “Research”
Certain “facts” are in fact plain conjecture. Other facts which can easily be researched are simply copied and pasted without verification. For example, quotations are simply extracted from the audio, From the Shadows, including the most glaring error claiming that the Freemasons realised their error in France when they lost control of Napoleon. They therefore made certain that when they later inspired the American Revolution that they installed a Freemason, George Washington.

The producers make much of their “research” yet as Americans, they should know a basic fact that the Treaty of Paris terminating the Independence War was signed in 1783, which is 16 years before Napoleon came to power in 1799. Did the Masons then invent a time travel machine to install George Washington back in 1775? Incidentally Washington died in 1799, the year Bonaparte came to power and broke away from Masonic control. How could the French Revolution possibly have been before the American Revolution?

If these widely available facts are mysteries to these great researchers, why should we trust them on their novel, obscure claims?

Brazen distortion of Qurān and Ḥadīth
Our interpretation of Qurān and Ḥadīth is what Allāh and His Rasūl (pbuh) taught us, via the chain of the Ṣaḥābah (R.A), Mufassirūn and Muḥaddithūn. Aḥādīth warning against personal interpretations are well known.

The producers make the following claims:

* Ad-Dajjāl has already emerged.
* The first day represents his rule in England, starting in 900 of the Christian era.
The second day represents his rule in America, starting in 1917.* The English monarchy started in 900.
* The third day represents his rule in Palestine, starting in 2001.

The unbiased will realise:
* England and “between Iraq and Syria” cannot be the same.
* The continuous monarchy of England is dated from the reign of Egbert in 829. Is Arrivals deliberately lying to get their date of 900?
* The question of the Ṣalāh, clearly shows that the Ṣaḥābah (RA) understood the prophecy to mean that a normal 24 hour day will be extended to a year.
* This is in line with the clear, uncomplicated Dīn which Rasūlullāh (pbuh) brought us.
* The esoteric UK-US theory seems more in line with Masonic thinking.

They are just slyer than many expect.
Submitted via email from:
Sulaiman al-Kindi

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